and then when it came time to go to middle school, she wanted her daughter to apply for one of the city wide magnet schools and the people said she doesn't qualify because she doesn't have the the kills and knowledge that she needs. and the mom said what do you mean? she's gotten all as. and they said, no, look at her skills assessment. and the mom was horrified. and felt betrayed because she said if my kid is not able to compete with other kids in the city or other kids in the nation, i should know that. she shouldn't be getting all a and lulling me into a sense of complacency when she doesn't have what she needs. so while i think that we shouldn't have an overemphasis on the test and that is happening in some places, we have to have some accountability. >> and that leads to the yes question of standardized testing. it's a one size fits all measureme measurement. what do you say to that? >> i think we can always do a better job of making sure that we have great assessments, but we have to have a starting point. and we cannot continue to have school districts that produce generations of